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Elena
Posts: 111
Registered: 12-22-2008
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Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

It is a terrible limitation that you now cannot change the standard cost in inventory in version 4.4 with users accessing inventory files, which includes sales order and purchase order files.
Is there ANY way round this ??

 

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Bob49087
Posts: 33
Registered: 10-26-2009
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

We've not found a way except to come in early before anyone is in the system, or stay late after everyone has gone, or get everyone out.  The actual update doesn't take long, but the input is another matter.  Once the user is in the Standard Cost entry or update, then no one else can access CI_Item.  And vice-versa.

 

I agree with Elena, it's a bother.  If anyone knows a way, please post...

 

Bob

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Bob49087
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Registered: 10-26-2009
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

I forgot -

 

The standard cost roll up in the work order module does not work correctly.  It assigns the labor and overhead properly, but the material cost is way off.  The standard cost roll up in the BOM module costs the material correctly, but does not cost labor and overhead.  So, you have to extract the material from the BOM cost roll up, the labor from the WO cost roll up, get a total, and enter that manually in the IM / Utilities / Standard Cost Adjustment Entry, then update.

 

Sage is aware of the problem and is supposed to fix it in a release / service update at the end of June.

 

If you do not have labor and overhead calculations from Routings in your costing model, then you can use the BOM / Main / Cost Roll Up Register to update any of the 3 costing methods it recognizes (Standard / Average / Last).

 

Once that is fixed, then the WO / main / cost roll up register would be the preferable way to update Standard Cost.

 

In either of these methods, you don't have to be a single user.  It will process with others in the system.

 

Right now, we're stuck with the single user / manual way due to the calc error in the WO module.

 

Bob

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Kerry
Posts: 86
Registered: 03-23-2009
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

I am glad we are on 4.3 until MAS200 SQL is allowing existing users to covert over because not being able to change STANDARD COST until everyone is out of the system would be a big problem where I am as well.  Why would they do this if the costing used is FIFO ?   Oh well .. maybe it will be changed or made an option by the time we convert.

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Elena
Posts: 111
Registered: 12-22-2008
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

Thank you all for the response.  Yes, it is a BIG problem for many of my clients and they simply will not be able to convert to and use 4.4 unless this is changed.

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TomTarget
Posts: 1,752
Registered: 11-02-2008
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4


Bob49087 wrote:

I forgot -

 

The standard cost roll up in the work order module does not work correctly.  It assigns the labor and overhead properly, but the material cost is way off.  The standard cost roll up in the BOM module costs the material correctly, but does not cost labor and overhead.  So, you have to extract the material from the BOM cost roll up, the labor from the WO cost roll up, get a total, and enter that manually in the IM / Utilities / Standard Cost Adjustment Entry, then update.

 

Sage is aware of the problem and is supposed to fix it in a release / service update at the end of June.

 


 

Is this only for standard cost items?  Or does it affect all items?

 

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Target System Technology, Inc. - Spokane, WA -
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Bob49087
Posts: 33
Registered: 10-26-2009
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

Yes.  The problem occurs in every costing method.

 

 

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terrapin4
Posts: 12
Registered: 11-03-2008
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

I did see that you can import changes into the CI_StandardCostAdjustSelection file and process in batches after hours.  Does this help?  Holler if you'd like details.

 

Kerry Reiss

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ckuhn2
Posts: 3
Registered: 12-20-2010
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4

 

Please vote for  the Enhancement Request  https://www11.v1ideas.com/SageERP/MAS90and200

 

"Please return the ability to change standard costs at any time"

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BigLouie
Posts: 2,686
Registered: 10-28-2008
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Re: Changing Standard Cost in V 4.4


Elena wrote:
It is a terrible limitation that you now cannot change the standard cost in inventory in version 4.4 with users accessing inventory files, which includes sales order and purchase order files.

 


Yes it is, just because Sage wants to maintain the integraty of the database they make us all suffer.

Big Louie No MBA but BMOC
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